Gast Geplaatst: 18 maart 2007 Geplaatst: 18 maart 2007 Er is een nieuw Neumo image v2.13 voor de 400s: http://update.neumoteam.org/pal/2.13/usb_kernel_root.img http://update.neumoteam.org/pal/2.13/usb_kernel_root_db.img ps: - Jondoe heeft zopas PC Editor v1.2.42 uitgebracht, vorige versies van de PC Editor zijn niet compatibel met dit image. - vergeet niet de tijdzone instelling te kontroleren na installeren van dit image. - wij verwachten over enkele weken opnieuw een image uit te brengen, feedback is welkom! vg _________ relooker Release notes: ---------------- I: new feature or improvement B: bug fix N: Note Some of the bug fixes and improvements below have been incorporated in DGS 2.13, but many have not yet been incorporated. The changes are w.r.t. the previously released Neumo image (2.9a). Boot and shutdown ----------------- I: cold boot speed has been improved by running operations in parallel where possible. You can now cold boot with 25 seconds and warm boot within 15s. These numbers are typical but depend on the spin-up speed of your hard disk. I: removing old EPG records is no longer done at startup time. As a result, all EPG screens now work immediately after startup (before you had to wait before something appeared on-screen) N: Shutdown speed has been reduced due to EPG cleaning and EPG cleaning now takes a lot more time because of the more efficient EPG code that gathers more data than before. Also dbepg.dat will typically grow larger than before. I: When pressing the power button to turn relook off, the video output is switched off much faster so that the regular TV picture appears. After the picture disappears relook continues to shut down. In particular, it needs some time to delete old EPG records. If internet EPG is in progress, shutdown will be delayed until it is finished. Pressing the power button during database cleaning will restart relook. Pressing the power button during internet EPG will stop relook (this behavior will be made more consist later). I: The filesystem of /var/media is automatically upgraded to ext3. As a result, the filesystem check that could take 15-20 minutes after a panic is now avoided in most cases. Older ext2-based images will still be able to access your data, but only if relook shuts down cleanly before you install the older image. I: The NeumoTeam option "Check HDD on next start" now works differently: When you turn it on, relook will do a long (15-30 minutes) filesystem check as before, but the new thing is that it turns off the option afterwards. EPG --- I: DVB EPG now gathers EPG data for all channels on the current transponder, and not only for the current channel. I: All start times are rounded to the nearest minute. This helps to avoid inserting records with small overlaps or duplicate records. I: The story window (displayed after pressing OK or info) can now also be hidden be pressing info again. I: In multichannel EPG the story window (EPG detail info) can now be shown by typing the info button (the OK button also works). I: Channel EPG has been made the default EPG because it is faster and clearer. I: In channel EPG, you can now type the channel number to display the EPG of that channel. You can press OK after the last number to display the result faster. As before you can press the "check"-button to make the channel for which EPG is displayed the live channel. I: The EPG code now gathers all data from a transponder as quickly as it can and only then starts to process it. If the user changes channel after the data has been gathered, relook will process that data instead of discarding it as it did before. Another advantage is that the EPG code works faster. The old code was sometimes so slow that it missed the next table in the sequence and then had to wait until it was transmitted again. I: Checking for duplicate EPG records is now faster and also more efficient: it results in fewer disk accesses. As a result, the overall CPU-usage of the EPG code has been significantly reduced. This should reduce some pixelation problems. Memory usage of the code has been reduced by 50%, leaving more space for other applications. B: When a commit to dbepg.dat fails, relook blocked itself from further accessing EPG-data effectively disabling all EPG functions until next reboot. I: When the EPG write thread fails to save data because the database is locked, the data is no longer discarded but the write is retried later. As a result less data is lost. A locked database occurs when Internet EPG is locking the database, and when the user executes a long-lasting EPG search. I: When tuning to a new channel, EPG for that channel will appear faster because it is now inserted in the front of the EPG write queue rather than at the end of the queue. I: Channel EPG now notices when new EPG data arrives and updates the screen accordingly. I: The EPG code has been completely rewritten. All configuration files, such as mhw_tp_list, have been replaced by a database table NITEpgInfo. Transponders listed in this table are scanned before all other transponders. The scan order is determined by a Priority column. Specific transponders can be disabled altogether by inserting them into NITEpgInfo and setting the EpgDisable column to an appropriate value. Transponders for Premiere, TPS, Digital+, Canaal Digitaal, TV Vlaanderen and some important German networks have been added. If for any reason NITEpgInfo is empty or contains the wrong transponders you will still get EPG data for your favorite channels but it will take longer I: EPG records are now updated when their story length is larger than the the story in the database. I: OTV EPG has been added. This offers up to 7 days of detailed EPG data on TPS. The mapping of TPS channel numbers to specific channels on specific transponders is stored in a database table EpgMap because a better solution was not available. Please note that data for some channels does not seem to be transmitted all the time. I: MHW2 has been added. This offers up to 7 days of detailed EPG data on most Digital+ channels (most notably not Taquilla). N: The DGS list EPG has been disabled since it offers less functionality than channel EPG. B: Crash in channel EPG. After pressing the "check"-button in the channel EPG on the current channel, relook goes to live mode. The next time channel EPG was activated, relook crashed. This was because channel EPG was not properly closed in this case. B: Scroll bar in channel EPG was not updated correctly. B: Channel EPG crashed when channel list was sorted by provider. B: Attempting EPG-search made relook crash. B: The results from the EPG search screen displayed the wrong time and program titles. B: End and start offset were sometimes added twice when editing recording schedules. B: Premiere subfeed EPG data was not gathered correctly because premiere.c associates the Premiere sport portal PID with Premiere direkt. B: Relook crashed in mhwepg.c because of a null pointer dereference. B: Relook crashed when EPG search returned no records. B: Icon for "Scroll description" showed left-right arrows instead of top/bottom. Channel list and channel changing --------------------------------- I: Automatic channel renumbering (from DGS 2.11) has been disabled, since most users do not like that. I: Worst-case channel changing speed has been improved. Channel changing was sometimes blocked when the EPG code was waiting for a table that was never broadcast. Channel changing was also blocked for a long time after tuning to a channel with no signal. B: Relook crashed when sorting channels by sat. This was caused by the insertion of zero-ids during database upgrade. The code is now robust against such errors. B: On encrypted channels the "ecm_pid list is full" appears sometimes. For instance on TPS. Despite the error, the channel decrypts. Duplicate ecm_pid's are no longer registered. A warning message is displayed instead. B: Picture freeze. When changing channels manually, or when the EPG code tuned to a different transponder, picture freeze occurred sometimes. This bug was traced to the i2c code by NeumoTeam and fixed by DGS. B: Relook sometimes did not display a picture after a channel change. The audio is played fine. This has the same cause as the picture freeze bug. B: When the EPG write list was full, relook locked up completely. B: While browsing the channel list, the application might crash when using page-down to go to (past) the bottom and then using up to move up again. Recordings and playback ----------------------- I: The "stop recording" GUI now shows longer channel names and it also includes the names and start times of the programs being recorded. In the old dialog sometimes two recordings could not be distinguished. I: The color of recordings in the record plan has been changed to white for improved readability. I: In the recording list, pressing the info button displays the story (if available) of the recording. This screen can now be removed by pressing the info button again. I: Relook again asks for confirmation before deleting a recording (was removed by DGS). I: The EPG record for a recording is not only stored in the database, but also in the filesystem. This allows media_info in db.dat to be recreated in case db.dat is lost. I: Undeletion of accidentally deleted files is made easier as follows: the index-file is no longer deleted but renamed and the media_info record of the deleted recording is saved in a table deleted_media_info for some time. You can undelete as long as you did not press the power button: 1. rename the dead.program and dead.program.index files to their correct name: "mv dead.long_file_name long_file_name". 2. copy the record from deleted_media_info to media_info using SQL commands. I: Names of recorded files now include the year in addition to month and day. I: When entering a new reservation or recording manually, a message box with the text "please wait" used to appear. The slow behavior was caused by the creation of a combo-box for every single channel in the database (radio and TV) which is very slow. Now this action only occurs if you change the channel of the recording or reservation. B: Relook crashed when pressing the info button twice to display EPG details during playback. B: When recording "until end of program", the question box ("120 minutes or until end of program") remained on the screen. B: Relook did not shut down after a recording. B: Relook crashed when pressing the info button twice during playback of a recording that was made "manually" (i.e., not from an epg record). B: Pressing and holding the fast forward (<<) and fast rewind (>>) keys in time-shift or playback mode, to jump forward or backward only worked once until the live banner disappears. B: Pressing the pause and play key (which jumps to the next bookmark) only worked once until the live banner disappears. B: Recordings started via EPG or REC-button didn't end on time. Note: a similar (rare) bug may still be present. This part of the code will be rewritten in a future version to deal with other recording related problems. B: In the recording list screen, pressing the stop button should stop any file playback. When a recording is in progress and no file is being played, the stop button brought up the "stop recording" dialog, which does not function correctly in this case. This has been changed so that only playbacks are affected. B: In the recording list menu, pressing the lock icon and typing a password (0000) made relook crash. B: When stopping a recording manually, relook sometimes crashed while inserting a record into media_info. Live mode --------- B: Live banner now shows the correct name of the program when it is being recorded. B: EPG display also works in banner mode 2. B: A message box appeared saying that the channel is scrambled appeared when it was not. B: In time-shift mode, the pause, fast forward and rewind keys now work correctly (see "recording and playback"). Upgrade and software installation --------------------------------- I: ipkg has been added. It will be used to install Geckow, Internet EPG, PHP and Perl. B: Image upgrade via HTTP has been supported for a while now. Virtual hosts are now correctly supported. B: Database upgrade updates sat_id's. In some cases, the new sat_id becomes 0, leading to memory corruption. This bug helps trigger another bug that makes relook crash when channels are ordered by satellite. N: The database schema has changed. You will not be able to use PC editor until it supports the new schema 1.18. USB-mode -------- B: Entering USB-mode resulted in a panic. Setup and menus --------------- I: Time-zones are now controlled using standard Linux time-zone files. The time-zone is now only determined by the symbolic link /var/etc/localtime and is no longer also stored in the database, which solves the problem that some GUI screens displayed a different time than others in some cases and all the EPG-related problems. Users can select the time-zone using the local-time setup screen. Users in central Europe should use "CET" as the time-zone. This zone will automatically switch to and from daylight savings time The "daylight savings time" setup option has been removed since it was confusing should no longer be needed. N: It is not clear if the first recording after DST change will actually work. Wait and see. B: Relook crashes when entering USALS menu. B: The help line in "ipsetup" was not shown correctly after using the virtual keyboard from DDNS setup. B: The help line in "NeumoTeam Settings (HDD)" was not shown correctly. If you opened another menu first, you saw the help line of the old menu. B: Pressing the arrow key when the cursor was on on the last line in Local Time menu, the cursor didn't jump on the first line again, but added another Time-line to the menu. B: Some NeumoTeam-settings were not saved correctly: send DiseqC (never); use free tuner if scrambled (never); front panel display (sometimes); led-status in standby (sometimes). B: Key 0 also runs a script in addition to keys 1-9 Front panel -------------------- I: Accented characters in channel names such as Téva, Première, France ô, ... are no longer displayed as blanks on the led front panel, but as the corresponding non-accented characters. This should work for most but not all accented characters. B: If in NeumoTeam Settings (general) the "Front panel display" is "Channel number", the front panel shows the channel nr. right in live, but in recording mode the front panel shows "rec + channel NAME" instead of "rec C..." (channel-nr): Plugins ------- I: Plugin menu now shows metadata (authors, description etc.). B: The help lines in all plugins were not displayed correctly. Some plugins crashed. The standard plugins Pong and Sudoku have been fixed. N: Related to the just mentioned bug: All plugins need to be recompiled because of a change in help_message.c. Otherwise they will crash. B: The ts_rec plugin did not work correctly because some ecm_pid's remained registered. Miscellaneous ---------------- I: The following "standard" linux configuration files have been introduced and the most important ones can be edited. /etc/hosts /etc/protocols I: image loading and unloading (in the gui) has been improved to be more robust against coding errors. I: dropbear uses a different random device and no longer hangs waiting for entropy if no keys are being pressed. I: nptd has been included. It can synchronize your clock very accurately. Make sure you use the "manual" time-setting in the relook setup menu when using ntpd. I: syslog now starts automatically on boot. The log can be read using logread. I: dmesg is now included to read the console log from a virtual console. Geckow ------ The following bugs are fixed in the Geckow version in svn B: Geckow did not obey "record start offset" and "record end offset" (the solution is implemented in the database, not Geckow) B: When /var/media/video contains symlinks. Geckow does not display the list of recorded files. Improvements for developers --------------------------- I: Source can be compiled on MacOSX. Patches for this are available. I: Console output prompt has been changed to be less confusing for debuggers that interpret messages on stderr. I: All freed pointers are zeroed which makes it easier to detect memory bugs. I: By creating the file /var/.savelog, relook will no longer send debug messages to the serial console, but rather to a file in /var/media/log. Users without serial console should use this option to gather the debug messages when they experience a problem. They can then send them to developers I: [describe installation of debug version of application] B: Source failed to compile when HOST was set in the environment. Known issues (not fixed) ------------------------ B: Lip sync problems on encrypted channels. B: The layout of multi-channel EPG is confusing and sometimes shows programs at the wrong start time. B: In IP-Setup after changing the IP address manually the field with the IP address is first updated when pressing submit button. It should be immediately after entering a new IP. B: Relook crashes when the slide show reads bad data from the disk. The problem occurs in vid_write_mpeg_file and may be in a binary module. B: Softcam sometimes suddenly fails with the error "DemuxSectioncallback(): Error - Section Filter length =0" B: On Filmfour, when there is a long pause in conversation the subtitle for the next spoken sentence sometimes appears up to 10 seconds to early. At a certain point it disappears again (timeout), before even the sentence is spoken. N: EPG search (e.g., yellow button in grid EPG) can take a very long time. There should be some way to abort the search if it takes too long. N: NeumoTeam auto-start time option has been removed because it complicated the EPG code and is now less needed because the EPG code works better during normal operation. An equivalent DGS option ("Wake up" in "User's options") can turn on your relook at a desired time. After you activate it, go to the "record plan" and set the duration to the desired value. This mode will allow EPG transponders to be scanned, but not in the same way as the deleted Neumo-code. For users with loop-though LNB's only some transponders will be scanned. We plan to solve this in a later version. N: Audio language should be selectable when recording. N: Subtitle language (or enabling/disabling subtitles) should be selectable when recording. 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Gast Geplaatst: 19 maart 2007 Geplaatst: 19 maart 2007 En DIT noem ik nog eens een UPDATE. Echt klasse. Vanavond testen. Download: http://relook.3pinter.nl PCEditor: http://relook.3pinter.nl/software/pceditor/Setup_PCEditor_1.2.42.exe Ahh, jammer: uiteraard geen EMU's aanwezig in Neumo releases, dus testen zal niet lukken hiero <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Gast Geplaatst: 19 maart 2007 Geplaatst: 19 maart 2007 Jullie hebben niet stil gezeten <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Maar hoe werkt dat nu met die versienummers ? fantacy had eerst 3.14a vervolgens releasd DGS versie 3.14 en nu Neumo 3.13 Begrijp ik het dan goed dat Neumo met de laagste versienummer in het rijtje, de nieuwste versie is met de meeste buxfixes ? Of zitten deze dingen reeds in de fantacy en DGS versie 3.14 ? Maar toch, goed werk jongens !
Beurnie1 Geplaatst: 19 maart 2007 Geplaatst: 19 maart 2007 Als ik het juist begrijp kan je in de neumo-images geen emu's zetten? Vu+ solo met Pli & Sab Titan HD 1 - Xwindow - USB HD 500GB
Gast Geplaatst: 19 maart 2007 Geplaatst: 19 maart 2007 Nee, je kunt de emu's er zelf in plaatsen! Maar of het dan goed werkt dat is de 2de vraag.
Beurnie1 Geplaatst: 19 maart 2007 Geplaatst: 19 maart 2007 Met andere woorden... IEmand die het zou getest hebben, met Emu's... : Wij wachten op uw bevindingen :-) Vu+ solo met Pli & Sab Titan HD 1 - Xwindow - USB HD 500GB
johnwillem Geplaatst: 19 maart 2007 Geplaatst: 19 maart 2007 Op denktenk bij news staat een emu tool kit. Kun je zelf de emu,s plaatsen in een orginele of neumo image. Er staat ook een howto file bij dus dat moet lukken Dreambox 500s jade3 voor op de camping Dreambox 8000 open PLI VU+ DUO open PLI
Gast Geplaatst: 19 maart 2007 Geplaatst: 19 maart 2007 De laatste Neumo werkt super tot nu toe. Heb dmv de handleiding van Denktenk zelf de EMU's toegevoegd en loopt als een tierelier. Ook zappen gaat super.
Gast Geplaatst: 19 maart 2007 Geplaatst: 19 maart 2007 Citaat: ..hoe werkt dat nu met die versienummers ? fantacy had eerst 3.14a vervolgens releasd DGS versie 3.14 en nu Neumo 3.13 Begrijp ik het dan goed dat Neumo met de laagste versienummer in het rijtje, de nieuwste versie is met de meeste buxfixes ? Hoi Testa, Je bedoelt waarschijnlijk versienummers 2.xx ipv 3.xx. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Versienummers van images, verwant aan de DGS firmware, krijgen normaal het versienr. van het DGS image waarop ze gebaseerd zijn. De DGS software staat op onze SVN codeserver publiek beschikbaar, ook de code van images die nog niet klaar zijn om uitgebracht te worden door DGS. De mensen van Fantacy hebben blijkbaar eind vorige week met de code van het 'under construction' DGS image 2.14 hun aangepast image uitgebracht, een paar dagen voordat DGS v2.14 heeft uitgebracht. DGS heeft tijdens die 2 dagen nog verder aan de code gewerkt, waardoor er minder bugs inzitten dan in de Fantacy 2.13a .. Het Neumo image is gebaseerd op de DGS code 2.13. Er zijn echter duidelijk minder bugs in, doordat we langdurige, grondige beta-testen hebben gedaan. (vnl. door Duitsers.. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> ) Onze definitieve release naar het publiek was reeds een aantal dagen op voorhand gepland op zondagavond, samen met de aangepaste versie van de PC-Editor. Zondagochtend was er dan de DGS v2.14 release. We hadden eventueel last-minute ook de DGS v2.14 kunnen integreren in ons image, maar dan met het risico op nieuwe bugs. Aangezien we absoluut willen afstappen van de trial-and-error alfa/beta releases die de Relook een slechte naam hebben bezorgd, zijn we dus gebleven bij de v2.13. Het was overigens toch reeds gepland in april een volgende Neumo image uit te brengen. DGS v2.14 (of een volgende..) wordt dan mee in dat image geïntegreerd. Neumo 2.13 is dus inderdaad de nieuwste, en zeker met de meeste bugfixes. De laatste verbeteringen (of bugs..) van de DGS v2.14 zitten er echter nog niet in. Hopelijk is het nu wat duidelijker na dit kort woordje uitleg... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Wat betreft de vragen van de andere posters: wie eens een kijkje neemt bij denktenk vindt daar snel een antwoord. vg __________ relooker
Gast Geplaatst: 20 maart 2007 Geplaatst: 20 maart 2007 Een verhelderende en duidelijke uitleg, waarvoor dank <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Gast Geplaatst: 21 maart 2007 Geplaatst: 21 maart 2007 Na een avondje testen en prutsen kan ik alleen maar zeggen dat het erop vooruit gegaan is ! Zo goed zelfs dat ik overweeg om enigma ff aan de kant te zwieren. ik zeg overweeg, want: -Dat eeuwige lipsync gedoe <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />((( met een kleine fix heb je daar bij enigma absoluut geen last van, dan moet DGS dat toch ook kunnen !?!? Je zou die decoder zo uit het raam gooien als het weer zover is. -het netwerk wordt uitgeschakeld in standby mode, ik heb graag Geckow altijd draaien zodat ik ten alle tijden van op me werk de timer kan instellen. Wat is de meerwaarde om dit uit te schakelen ? Ik kan begrijpen dat dit uit staat in de helemaal uit mode (langer dan 2 sec drukken op de powerknop) -de snel verder en terugspoel functie is (denk ik) verbeterd, maar het is echt veel handiger als je het aantal minuten kan intypen wat je wil verder of terugspoelen. Het is nog steeds veels te onnauwkeurig. Het positieve: tot nu toe geen enkele panic gehad (formtastisch !!) starten en stoppen is veel sneller receiver stopt bij einde opname (of vraagt om te stoppen) ....
Gast Geplaatst: 21 maart 2007 Geplaatst: 21 maart 2007 correctie, netwerk blijft als je altijd voor warme start kiest bij de Neumo settings
robbedoeske Geplaatst: 22 maart 2007 Geplaatst: 22 maart 2007 Citaat: -Dat eeuwige lipsync gedoe <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />((( met een kleine fix heb je daar bij enigma absoluut geen last van, dan moet DGS dat toch ook kunnen !?!? Je zou die decoder zo uit het raam gooien als het weer zover is. Is die Fix niet gewoon te gebruiken voor dgs soft <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Zal wel niet anders had iemand het wel gemeld <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
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